• Then, once you paid

    From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Tiny on Monday, November 24, 2025 22:37:23
    Re: Then, once you paid
    By: Tiny to Mro on Mon Nov 24 2025 05:16 am

    Hi Mro,
    On <Mon, 23 Nov 25>, you wrote me:

    i think they are going to disable the ability to access them via
    imap. they tried that before but it came back. the are also taking
    away yahoo classic. i use yahoo for my real shit emails.

    I stopped checking it regular as it's all spam. I think I've had
    maybe 2 real email's from people who found a program I wrote and are
    asking for help or feature request.

    that's probably me asking about sabreedit.
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Accession on Monday, November 24, 2025 22:40:50
    Re: Then, once you paid
    By: Accession to MRO on Mon Nov 24 2025 07:05 am

    Hey MRO!

    On Sun, 23 Nov 2025 22:24:46 -0600, you wrote:

    it could be i got a funny version. i installed it using chocolately.

    Hrm. I have no idea on that one. I don't even know what chocolately
    is.

    it's like a package manager for windows.
    i think it did the portable installer.


    So you got it to work, or no?

    I've since realized that left pane is for just about everything.
    When I open Vivaldi it shows the mail pane, but I can hit the
    'feeds' button, or 'calendar' button, or any of the other web panel
    buttons (including adding a new one, if I wanted), and that will
    change that left pane to show any of those, instead.

    yeah i got it to work.
    I just had to gut all the files from my system and then it snapped out of it.

    it wouldn't work with my bbs mail, though.
    it's a pain to setup email fetching because my webmail has special keys i
    need to use instead of my pw so i didnt take it that far.
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  • From Tiny@VERT/PHARCYDE to Mro on Tuesday, November 25, 2025 05:33:55
    Hi Mro,
    On <Tue, 24 Nov 25>, you wrote me:

    that's probably me asking about sabreedit.

    You have my real email and I think used that one.

    ... Darn. I thought sysoping was a hobby...


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  • From jimmylogan@VERT/DIGDIST to Tiny on Tuesday, November 25, 2025 20:37:23
    Tiny wrote to Accession <=-

    Hi Accession,
    In a message to Nightfox you wrote:

    I think I'm going to have to take a look at this. ;)

    I've been running vivaldi since it was an early release. It's by far
    my favorite browser, first thing I do on a new install is install it.
    :)

    Might be good to have for a backup... New to me! :-)



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  • From Arelor@VERT/PALANTIR to Nightfox on Wednesday, November 26, 2025 05:10:35
    Re: Then, once you paid
    By: Nightfox to Accession on Sat Nov 22 2025 08:05 am

    It's been many years since I used a dedicated desktop email client on my PC that downloads email locally. I tend to access my email (usually Gmail) from multiple devices: My home PC, my smartphone, work PC, etc., and I feel like it's easiest to just use Gmail's web interface when I'm on a PC; for my smartphone, I use the dedicated Gmail app.

    I find using email clients with IMAP support is just much better when you accss your emails from multiple locations.

    Webmail is a resource and bandwidth hog, and the interfaces usually suck. The best ones are usually barely tolerable. I don't know if Gmail's web interface these days allows you to view the message's source code or the email headers, but I think it used not to be the case. That is such a basic feature I regard any interface with such functionality to be utterly broken.


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  • From Arelor@VERT/PALANTIR to poindexter FORTRAN on Wednesday, November 26, 2025 05:38:49
    Re: Re: Then, once you paid
    By: poindexter FORTRAN to Mindsurfer on Mon Nov 24 2025 08:01 am

    I'm thinking of hosting my own mail again, but outbound SMTP is a pain
    these days.

    This is something people keeps saying. My experience is that as long as you are not sending automated emails, your user count is low, and your IP belongs to a reputable ISP assignation, you are unlikely to face serious issues.

    But yeah, you need to do a lot of domain management bullshit and get your DMARC/DKIM/SPF right, or a lot of providers won't take email from you. This kind of sucks because, on paper, those things are only helpful for multi-node SMTP systems (ie. if you set xxxx@yourdomain.com messages from more than une server) but lots of providers have insisted in it becoming an industry standard, and now you have to set those up even if you have a misserable single user server under your bed. I definitively count it as not a roadblock, but I count it as yet another reason to set Google's offices on fire.


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  • From phigan@VERT/TACOPRON to Arelor on Wednesday, November 26, 2025 05:14:05
    Re: Re: Then, once you paid
    By: Arelor to poindexter FORTRAN on Wed Nov 26 2025 05:38 am

    standard, and now you have to set those up even if you have a misserable sin user server under your bed. I definitively count it as not a roadblock, but count it as yet another reason to set Google's offices on fire.

    100% agreed. I do have all my DNS crud set up, but since I'm using a VPS in some random datacenter and in some random IP range, I still get some of my emails sent to people's spam folders (mostly on Gmail, I think). It used to be that Microsoft servers would block me, but they also used to block tilde.club emails.. They might've loosened up their blockers since then.

    To test your email/webmail provider, you could try sending yourself an email from one of the BBSes with network mail set up.

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